A conversation with Daniel McCarthy, an Advisory Council member of the Kennan Institute, and David Byrne, a historian and author of the book, James Burnham: An Intellectual Biography. This conversation explores the long career of James Burnham, his relationship to Leon Trotsky and his articulation of an anti-communist policy for the United States at the outset of the Cold War. It looks as well at Burnham's contributions to the American conservative movement, from Barry Goldwater to Donald Trump.